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Waste of money if you ask me. koreans already do ai for chips and other stuff, why does it need a bunch of foreign cash to do it now?

not you thinking anyone cares

not you thinking anyone cares

wait what

Seoul uni AI prof told me, foreign capital buys influence iykyk

Idk about this whole 'foreign capital buys influence' thing ngl its prob true but where's the proof though cant just be some UNI prof's word lol

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THIS exactly

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yeah no but like whats the actual evidence here foreign money floods in sure but does it really *reshape* anythi..

why is this buried? this is the real answer

i think were oversimplifying the issue - foreign investment can buy influence but its not like south korea's ai landscape was created from scratch without any local efforts, and what about the government's own initiatives in this space?

i guess you're right about foreign investment buying influence. but like, how does that actually play out in south korea's ai scene? are we talking more about who gets to decide which projects get funded or something?

glad I scrolled down far enough to find this

what about the actual impact on ai startups tho

ok boomer

couldn't agree more

why is this buried? this is the real answer

You're assuming the investment changes everything but what about korean govt INITIATIVES fr fr

I think we're oversimplifying the impact of foreign capital by just saying they buy influence, don't you think that's neglecting how Korean companies themselves have been ac..

yeah but foreign capital isnt some monolith its literally just money with different strings attached depending on who holds the purse lol *(edited)*

more people need to see this

Reminds me of china's tech scene but no idea if thats apples and oranges lmfao 😭

Similar vibe to taiwan's semiconductor boom 😭

LMAO no

so whats the diff between china and korea rn in terms of ai investment lmao

But didnt china just go down a different economic path and has more state control over tech in general so drawing parallels might oversimplify things no? 💀

so you're just gonna handwave it as "china" and call it a day huh no way south korea's ai scene is way more fragmented and export-driven than china's state-backed mega corps even the chaebols here pivot faster than a drunk guy at a bus stop

yeah no BUT china is literally the elephant in the room here south korea aint operating in a vacuum

actualy china's not even a factor here 😂

lowkey tho

China’s influence is literally everywhere

Um i think china needs to be a factor here if we're talking about south korea's tech influence dont get me wrong i love hana's optimism but ignoring china's massive investment in AI and the fact that they're slowly but surely catching up with sk (south korea) is gonna lead to some major blindspots

sheesh

Actually south korea's doing more ai research than china right now

That's just CITATION impact not actual use not gonna lie

that's a pretty simplistic statement tho south korea having more ai research than china doesn't necessarily translate to a more favourable landscape in south korea especially if chinese companies are pouring in money and talent left and right and buying out existing institutions doesn't the influx of big industry investment fundamentally alter the dynamics between research and practical application in south korea

Hold up andrei i think you might be missing some context here china is doing way more ai development when it comes to actual applications and market penetration like their facial recognition tech is way more widespread than anything in skorea right now that's not to say skorea isn't doing research but it feels like you're comparing apples to oranges with this claim

actually thats skewed by government funding iykyk

and I oop

Andrei’s just counting papers while china’s actually shipping products and making money off ai lol 😭

valid I guess

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China's influence is just part of the equation tbf

Hold up, what about the US influence then?

What about china's influence lmao we always talk about us and korea but chinese companies are investing big time in ai too ngl it's kinda one sided to just focus on korean-us ties not gonna lie

Yeah but china’s influence isnt some hidden factor its literally the elephant in the room everyone pretends to ignore when they talk about korea tbf

Wait can u elaborate on china's influence?

nobody asked *(edited)*

hold up, US influence isnt even the main concern here Ayse we're talking about big industry investment reshaping SKorea's AI landscape what about the actual AI talent and education system in SKorea thats the key factor here, not some distant foreign influence

no thoughts head empty

china's influence is just where we're at, but how about the govt's OWN role in stifling ai innovation here? 😭

China's influence is just part of the equation tbf but what about the massive investments from south korean conglomerates like Sams...

edit: didnt mean to come off harsh, just frustrated w the situation

yeah china's influence is jsut part of it but you're kinda glossing over what i think is a bigger issue - south korea's own domestic ai ecosystem and how its being shaped by its own politics and tech giants, not just external factors

um yh china's influence is def part of it but y dont ppl ever talk about the govts role in korea's ai push? like theyre pouring cash into ai labs n investing in startups, that shldnt be ignored lol

i feel this

Idk why people are assuming china's investments aren't a thing in south korea but afaik south korean gov actualy has strict regulations on foreign ownership in the ai sector

china's got its own thing going on lol south korea's still pretty innovative ngl

No ONE'S "handwaving" anything just pointing out korea's smaller ai labor market is more of a factor

Yeah but like how many of those "smaller" ai workers are just underpaid contractors doing data labeling for pennies while the chaebol execs sip soju in gangnam towers lmao

China’s shadow looms everywhere iykyk

China's not even the issue here

why did this make me feel things

liesel you're totally dismissing the role china has PLAYED in pushing south korea to innovate faster on AI but where's the acknowledgement that SK gov has been actively investing in ai tech for years too

What do you mean liesel? how is "china" being thrown around as a dismissive term relevant to this conversation about AI investment in south korea

ur missing key players in this ecosystem like samsung and lg lol

ngl you're kinda missing the main issue here which is that even with chinese investment south korea still leads china in ai innovation per capita lol

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Actually china was given a backdoor into ai systems NOT gonna lie

But like isn't that a pretty simplified view of a super complex situation and doesn't that kinda gloss over how seoul's actually working with china to push ai adoption in its own industries

yeah but like how would that even work with korean firms already having their own ai stacks and all 🤦

that's kinda a side point, lets not get sidetracked by china and forget we're talking about south korea, what's the actual impac...

ok fair

cem thats a pretty generic take. we're missing actual data on how much of south korea's ai funding actually goes to locally-owned companies vs foreign conglomerates 😅

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I feel you but dont you alot a lot* we're actually being kinda vague too when we just say 'big industry investment' like what specifically are we talking about here, are we looking at hardware, software, talent recruitment?

THIS exactly *(edited)*

what's the problem with generic takes tho lmao WE dont have data on everything we talk about in this thread so we gotta go off what we can find 😭 *(edited)*

cope

Yeah but like where’s the breakdown of chaebol vs foreign VC funding specifically in AI startups not just “big industry investment” as if that’s one monolithic blob you can just throw numbers at and call it a day

THIS exactly

why is this buried? this is the real answer

^ what they said

thats not the china rule, it's the lack of data

China copied their data somehow no cap 😅

korea's tech SCENE is literally my parents' neighborhood now lol

yeah its kinda similar lol but im pretty sure there's like way more english spoken in south korea so maybe thats a gamechanger imo

yeah big industry investment has definitely changed the south korean ai landscape and actually china's tech scene is a decent comparison in terms of state backed investment and gov involvement but south korea has more of a collaborative relationship between industry and academia

Yeah but doesnt THIS kinda gloss over the fact that the govt is already investing a ton in ai too fr 🔥

this person gets it *(edited)*

Yeah that tracks the chaebols and foreign vcs are basically playing 4d chess while the rest of us are stuck playing checkers with the rules changing every move

been lurking and yeah big money definitely flattens the weird little..